Curse

Konig Des Todes · Aug 13, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

You want another "glow from below?" Go to the Gate of Secrets, walk into the Domain of Fear, just in front of you there is a glow from below, hard to notice. On the mini map it just looks like a light blue area, look closely at the ground and the ground brighten ups as you get closer to the center. I believe this glow is The Spider's Heart landmark that was found in the gw.dat, but that's unknown.

I think there are other places as well with a "glow from below."

Also, I think the glow was there before EN actually.

Free Runner · Aug 13, 2008, 10:30 AM // 10:30

I believe the glow is just an effect for the block of jade. Its possible that your just seeing it now after seeing the Ice Dragons strange glow (which is yet to be determined as a strong effect or actually intended)as i have seen a couple of blocks with the exact same glow long before EotN.

Light of the Shiverpeak · Aug 15, 2008, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Very nice picture, although I expected the dragons to be bigger. Much, much bigger, like ultra super giganticus lupicus size. Even though I don't know much about their size

. Anyways awesome picture! ANet made those frost things atop of the ice very cartoonish, or rather bad animated. You know, those big snowflake thingys. Hope they'll changet that in GW2.

Free Runner · Aug 15, 2008, 09:24 AM // 09:24

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Originally Posted by Light of the Shiverpeak

Anyways awesome picture! ANet made those frost things atop of the ice very cartoonish, or rather bad animated. You know, those big snowflake thingys. Hope they'll changet that in GW2.

Thats because his graphics card cannot render them properly.

stouda01 · Aug 26, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

full drakkar

I have his model in 3dsmax so if any1 want it..i can upload it somewhere

Gmr Leon · Aug 26, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

How did you get that? Did you extract it from somewhere..?

Konig Des Todes · Aug 26, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

I was wondering the same thing...

Free Runner · Aug 26, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

It is still rather interesting to get a proper view of the Drakkar without that sheet of ice in the way.

stouda01 · Aug 26, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by GmrLeon

How did you get that? Did you extract it from somewhere..?

I extracted model with 3D Ripper DX..well actually I extracted whole map xd..then I deleted everything else except drakkar, used texmod to get texture because it was grey ><..(when i tried to get hall of monuments it was textured ok :/ )..if any1 else would like to extract something with 3D ripper you'll need some patch to open it in3ds max...i dont remember where i get it

Just google it )

draxynnic · Aug 27, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29

I wonder if that's actually what the dragon looks like, or if its actually supposed to have wing membranes between those spars that ANet either put in the lake texture instead, or figured no-one would be able to spot anyway?

Konig Des Todes · Aug 27, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39

The legs seem too thick to be wings imo. So I doubt that is what they are. Drakkar does seem to be more of Norse Dragons *basically giant water creatures* instead of the basic European *like Glint and seemingly Primordus*, Japanese *like Kuunavang*, or African *drake-like, tiny tiny wings*. Which makes sense seeing the origin of the Norn.

And as far as I can recall, it never says that Drakkar ever flown, only Grothmar does. Drakkar pushes the Norn south with the ice creatures, never says he flies over them. So I guess he will be crawling when we fight him. If they make us fight the dragons *with how they word the "real-time-events" that will happen, it seems like they will be like raiders in WoW (of what I heard of those), so I'm starting to have doubts of us killing ALL the Ancient Dragons*.

Pwny Ride · Aug 27, 2008, 08:57 AM // 08:57

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Originally Posted by stouda01

full drakkar

I have his model in 3dsmax so if any1 want it..i can upload it somewhere

Doesnt look like it *needs* wings in the end. It actually looks much more menacing this way. Reminds me of one of those wierd monsters in Start Wars Episode II in that arena fight scene.

Shasgaliel · Aug 27, 2008, 10:07 AM // 10:07

For me it looks like enormous avalanche/stone shard crag. Mostly the head... Actually I have not come across the origin of any of the elementals. What do you think? Might there be some connection between this dragon and avalanches/crags maybe other ones as well?

stouda01 · Aug 27, 2008, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride

Reminds me of one of those wierd monsters in Start Wars Episode II in that arena fight scene.

That's exactly what crossed my mind

Free Runner · Aug 27, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

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Originally Posted by Shasgaliel

For me it looks like enormous avalanche/stone shard crag. Mostly the head... Actually I have not come across the origin of any of the elementals. What do you think? Might there be some connection between this dragon and avalanches/crags maybe other ones as well?

Well it is the Dragon of Snow and Ice. While i dont think they came from it they could of had some association with its power. Note that when Svanir uses his spell to try and reveal the magic that is coming from the lake he becomes corrupted - and his Nornbear form gains icicles on its arms and back.

Konig Des Todes · Aug 27, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by Shasgaliel

For me it looks like enormous avalanche/stone shard crag. Mostly the head... Actually I have not come across the origin of any of the elementals. What do you think? Might there be some connection between this dragon and avalanches/crags maybe other ones as well?

As I understand it, the non-Stone Summit controlled Ice Elementals in the Far Shiverpeaks were either created by Drakkar before his hibernation, or were forged with his power as they were seeping out of him. Or possibly they were created by the creature I think to be his general *the Ice Pillar Lizard-like creature*. Or by both.

What is known, thanks to Svanir, is that Drakkar had SOMETHING to do with at least the elementals in Drakkar Lake. I would assume it is the same for all others as well though.

draxynnic · Aug 28, 2008, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

The legs seem too thick to be wings imo.

I disagree - the bones and muscles for the wings of a creature like that would need to be pretty strong to be able to bear its weight. What I can visualise by looking at the model is a wing membrane stretching from the front limbs to the back and extending a little further beyond before rejoining the body just in front of the tail. Even then, magic would probably be helping.

You could be right - although they don't look like they're formed correctly for legs to me. Possibly fins, though - or it could be a structure that works just as well as wings or fins.

Interesting thought about the dragon having a general in the area... Remnant of Antiquities, perhaps? Is it actually specified anywhere just which Antiquities it's a remnant of?

Konig Des Todes · Aug 28, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44

I don't think it is, but that isn't the creature I was talking about. Which I'm sure you are aware of. The Remnant of Antiquities doesn't seem to be strong enough to be a general of a Ancient Dragon. Maybe a Captain/Lieutenant, that is, if he is affiliated with Drakkar. The same can be said for Elsnil Frigidheart and Myish, Lady Of The Lake.

Only Myish is given a description of my looking around, which is:

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Originally Posted by Notorious Foe: Myish, Lady of the Lake

Wanted: Myish, Lady of the Lake
Signature attack: Onslaught

Myish dwells within the great frozen lake in Drakkar Lake. She possesses a powerful bond with the elements, forcing magical creatures of ice and water to respond to her every will and command. Few travelers venture to the lake and return to tell the tale after catching a glimpse of her haunting beauty.

With having a powerful bond with the elements, and forcing magical creatures of ice and water, it is clear that she serves Drakkar, and since she isn't that strong, is probably not a general, but a captain or lieutenant.

Back to the Remnant idea. I would think whatever it is a remnant of, the Fragments of Antiquities were also a part of, the Remnant just being a "bigger piece."

Edit: Found something on the Remnant's origin:

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Originally Posted by Sage Bollnar

Oh, my. Frightful creatures await you inside, manifested of ice and forgotten memories. Not the sort of thing I care for, you know. One story even tells of a guardian known as the Remnant of Antiquities awaiting within the anvil chamber. It is said the creature was shaped and brought to life by the Great Dwarf himself to guard the anvil until such time that our people would once again need its power. The tales also tell of one who would prove worthy of claiming it. I can only wonder at what terror could, watching and waiting for ages innumerable, down in the dark. The thought makes my spine tingle. That place is its domain, friend. I could imagine the air itself turning against you. Best step lightly.

So it seems it was the Great Dwarf who created the Remnant of Antiquities.

Free Runner · Aug 28, 2008, 12:23 PM // 12:23

Interestingly enough after you defeat Myish, her scythe appears inside the ice rather than on top of it. It almost looks like it was frozen within the ice.

And lets remember the Great Dwarf has fought a general before - wether he knows that is unknown. But i wouldnt be suprised at him creating a guardian from the experience of fighting a previous general.

Gmr Leon · Aug 28, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

it is clear that she serves Drakkar

No, it really isn't. Consider the fact that there are various magical specimens in the Far Shiverpeaks. Demons and spirits all over the place that have it out for people. That Myish is amongst those doesn't make her any more significant.

Besides, if you read all the signs in Sifhalla, it proves my point quite well that Myish is one of many creatures in the area that is powerful. Whether it be in magic or strength isn't particularly important.